(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[3600]OT[15/300 Canadian]
PW[bgbgbg007]PB[Javaness]WR[4k]BR[1d]DT[2007-01-17]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[peiyan [1d?\]: hi
Javaness [1d\]: that seemed to work
Javaness [1d\]: ok best of luck
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: good luck..
Javaness [1d\]: KGS does Nigiri now, so I guess I won that
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: ok all the best
]RE[B+13.50]
;B[pd]BL[3557.325]
;W[dp]WL[3595.827]
;B[pp]BL[3542.938]
;W[dd]WL[3592.619]
;B[fq]BL[3534.255]
;W[cn]WL[3578.374]
;B[jp]BL[3506.611]
;W[nc]WL[3570.681]
;B[qf]BL[3498.415]
;W[jd]WL[3565.328]
;B[pj]BL[3478.756]
;W[dj]WL[3558.213]
;B[fc]BL[3464.009]C[Javaness [1d\]: solaris is cristian pop
]
;W[ec]WL[3527.524]
;B[fd]BL[3457.092]C[tasuki [-\]: :D
]
(;W[hc]WL[3521.936]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][lb][mb][nb][ob][pb][qb][rb][sb][ac][bc][cc][dc][ec][gc][hc][ic][jc][kc][lc][mc][nc][oc][pc][qc][rc][sc][ad][bd][cd][dd][ed][gd][hd][id][jd][kd][ld][md][nd][od][qd][rd][sd][ae][be][ce][de][ee][fe][ge][he][ie][je][ke][le][me][ne][oe][pe][qe][re][se][af][bf][cf][df][ef][ff][gf][hf][if][jf][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][pf][rf][sf][ag][bg][cg][dg][eg][fg][gg][hg][ig][jg][kg][lg][mg][ng][og][pg][qg][rg][sg][ah][bh][ch][dh][eh][fh][gh][hh][ih][jh][kh][lh][mh][nh][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][ai][bi][ci][di][ei][fi][gi][hi][ii][ji][ki][li][mi][ni][oi][pi][qi][ri][si][aj][bj][cj][dj][ej][fj][gj][hj][ij][jj][kj][lj][mj][nj][oj][qj][rj][sj][ak][bk][ck][dk][ek][fk][gk][hk][ik][jk][kk][lk][mk][nk][ok][pk][qk][rk][sk][al][bl][cl][dl][el][fl][gl][hl][il][jl][kl][ll][ml][nl][ol][pl][ql][rl][sl][am][bm][cm][dm][em][fm][gm][hm][im][jm][km][lm][mm][nm][om][pm][qm][rm][sm][an][bn][cn][dn][en][fn][gn][hn][in][jn][kn][ln][mn][nn][on][pn][qn][rn][sn][ao][bo][co][do][eo][fo][go][ho][io][jo][ko][lo][mo][no][oo][po][qo][ro][so][ap][bp][cp][dp][ep][fp][gp][hp][ip][kp][lp][mp][np][op][qp][rp][sp][aq][bq][cq][dq][eq][gq][hq][iq][jq][kq][lq][mq][nq][oq][pq][qq][rq][sq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][gr][hr][ir][jr][kr][lr][mr][nr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[solaris [-\]: what i did?
Javaness [1d\]: you broke it
Javaness [1d\]: try now
solaris [-\]: hahaa, never saw this before:)
Javaness [1d\]: change the tool
Javaness [1d\]: it's stuck in score estimate
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: maybe i'll win this time :-)
]
;B[de]BL[3388.427]TR[hc]C[Javaness [1d\]: lol
solaris [-\]: this keima u meant ?
Javaness [1d\]: yes
solaris [-\]: yes, is a bit strange
solaris [-\]: somethimes is possible
solaris [-\]: when ladder work
]
(;W[ce]WL[3506.367]
(;B[cf]BL[3381.592]TR[cf]C[solaris [-\]: but this looks strange too:)
]
;W[ee]WL[3487.996]
;B[df]BL[3377.896]
(;W[cc]WL[3480.46]C[Javaness [1d\]: I was going to give brian those two
solaris [-\]: but are too big
]
;B[be]BL[3366.773]
(;W[cd]WL[3477.536]C[Javaness [1d\]: I was assuming I settled with other group
]
;B[ed]BL[3352.864]
;W[ff]WL[3454.534]
(;B[bd]BL[3332.14]
;W[eb]WL[3447.263]
;B[bc]BL[3322.758]
;W[gb]WL[3431.673]
;B[cb]BL[3305.216]
;W[dc]WL[3404.583]C[Javaness [1d\]: I thought if I atari there white won't answer
solaris [-\]: even so is good for b:)
Javaness [1d\]: Ii don't know
Javaness [1d\]: white got some thickness 
]
;B[ge]BL[3176.49]
;W[gg]WL[3384.58]
;B[ie]BL[3165.576]
;W[kf]WL[3358.196]
;B[hg]BL[3146.903]
;W[hh]WL[3290.814]
;B[ig]BL[3105.297]
;W[gh]WL[3256.398]
;B[ih]BL[3091.781]
;W[ij]WL[3243.24]
;B[ii]BL[3082.103]
;W[gj]WL[3213.756]
(;B[hi]BL[3071.451]
;W[hj]WL[3210.442]
;B[gi]BL[3069.508]
;W[fi]WL[3208.946]
;B[ef]BL[3057.474]C[Javaness [1d\]: I expected H4 or something here
solaris [-\]: like this all b get is a connection , but give a nice wall to w
]
(;W[nq]WL[3119.924]
;B[oq]BL[3039.984]TR[gj][hj][ij]C[solaris [-\]: o3 is ok
solaris [-\]: better invade and try to split with h3 later
solaris [-\]: to use wall for attack
solaris [-\]: i mean this wall
]
;W[np]WL[3106.574]
;B[pn]BL[3036.737]
;W[lp]WL[3098.901]
;B[kq]BL[3024.571]
;W[mm]WL[3095.702]
;B[jn]BL[3016.148]LB[qc:D][pl:A][qq:B][dr:C]C[solaris [-\]: are some big points
solaris [-\]: m3 is not one of them:)
solaris [-\]: well, make kind of eyes, but too slow
]
;W[lq]WL[3091.333]C[solaris [-\]: mb m3 too slow
Javaness [1d\]: J3 is a bit weak
]
;B[fo]BL[3005.219]
;W[er]WL[3057.342]
(;B[eq]BL[2948.978]
;W[dq]WL[3054.169]
;B[fr]BL[2946.678]C[solaris [-\]: w is sente now
solaris [-\]: and w have corner
]
;W[ho]WL[3032.488]
;B[hp]BL[2932.685]
;W[hm]WL[3022.909]
;B[fm]BL[2917.465]
;W[dl]WL[3012.109]
;B[pb]BL[2906.332]C[Javaness [1d\]: ok
]
(;W[ql]WL[2980.379]
;B[qn]BL[2841.652]
(;W[rj]WL[2977.058]
;B[qh]BL[2808.876]
;W[ol]WL[2972.715]
(;B[or]BL[2790.657]
;W[kr]WL[2958.467]C[Javaness [1d\]: why S10?
]
;B[jr]BL[2782.828]
;W[kp]WL[2951.195]
;B[jq]BL[2778.163]
;W[nj]WL[2935.992]TR[lc]C[bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: trying to take back a bit of territory - didnt work out well :-)
solaris [-\]: to reduce?
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: sorry - yeah reduce
Javaness [1d\]: I thought maybe you'd try R12
solaris [-\]: w have to defend , m17 is severe after q18
]
;B[nb]BL[2752.262]C[solaris [-\]: yes, o18 is enough for b to win , but is aji keshi:)
]
;W[mb]WL[2932.417]
;B[oc]BL[2750.615]
;W[nd]WL[2923.323]
;B[ma]BL[2746.842]
;W[la]WL[2919.378]
;B[na]BL[2744.793]
;W[lc]WL[2917.381]
;B[oh]BL[2734.919]
;W[mg]WL[2905.643]
;B[fk]BL[2720.286]C[solaris [-\]: b is ahead
Javaness [1d\]: ok
solaris [-\]: w can't win, have top, which is small, and left only big
solaris [-\]: b have 2 big and 2 small, 
solaris [-\]: yes, top left was a bit of disaster for w:)
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: tell me about it .....
Javaness [1d\]: apart frm that even game :)
solaris [-\]: after become hard to get back in game
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: well white played safe because of big lead
Javaness [1d\]: brian, do we send this to Olivier or to Stephen?
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: i thought i could have been punished more later in middle top..
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: yeah why not. can u do it..
Javaness [1d\]: Q8 was possible too maybe
Javaness [1d\]: i can
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: great thanks ian and thanks solaris for review
Javaness [1d\]: I guess it's still Stephen doing it
solaris [-\]: thanks too:)
Javaness [1d\]: thanks cristian
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: bye bye all
Javaness [1d\]: thanks brian
solaris [-\]: ok, i ahve to go, see you guys
Javaness [1d\]: bye
Javaness [1d\]: night
solaris [-\]: bye
]
;W[fj]WL[2898.597]
;B[bi]BL[2696.44]
;W[bj]WL[2857.918]
;B[ci]BL[2693.427]
;W[cj]WL[2849.215]
;B[aj]BL[2682.803]
;W[ak]WL[2825.598]
;B[ai]BL[2680.058]
;W[bl]WL[2824.809]
;B[jl]BL[2655.666]
;W[dh]WL[2821.708]
;B[bg]BL[2615.117]
;W[gf]WL[2793.732]
;B[hf]BL[2607.041]
;W[im]WL[2753.304]
;B[jm]BL[2598.579]
;W[sg]WL[2736.764]
;B[rg]BL[2591.398]
;W[sh]WL[2730.906]
;B[sf]BL[2589.541]
;W[rm]WL[2713.182]
;B[rn]BL[2583.86]
;W[sn]WL[2710.761]
;B[so]BL[2581.114]
;W[sm]WL[2709.943]
;B[rp]BL[2579.328]
;W[ki]WL[2700.234]
;B[nn]BL[2576.152]
;W[mn]WL[2694.776]
;B[fe]BL[2562.617]
;W[eh]WL[2662.681]
;B[eg]BL[2553.205]
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;B[si]BL[2528.733]
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;B[nf]BL[2499.055]
;W[oe]WL[2477.052]
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;W[ic]WL[2458.948]
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;B[en]BL[2437.595]
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;W[co]WL[2409.955]
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;W[bq]WL[2404.996]
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;W[od]WL[2365.044]
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;W[hl]WL[2328.609]
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;W[fa]WL[2325.409]
;B[lr]BL[2222.073]
;W[mr]WL[2320.489]
;B[ks]BL[2220.473]
;W[bb]WL[2318.276]
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;W[nh]WL[2296.29]
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;W[nl]WL[2238.818]
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;W[oi]WL[2235.38]
;B[pi]BL[2132.325]
;W[ng]WL[2233.212]
;B[og]BL[2129.814]
;W[mj]WL[2222.55]
;B[kh]BL[2116.502]
;W[jh]WL[2200.476]
;B[jg]BL[2109.683]
;W[ji]WL[2148.826]
;B[kg]BL[2104.931]
;W[lh]WL[2145.803]
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;W[hd]WL[2135.925]
;B[he]BL[2089.365]
;W[lf]WL[2095.524]
;B[sk]BL[2081.639]
;W[rl]WL[2055.466]
;B[gc]BL[2072.708]
;W[hb]WL[2042.248]
;B[sj]BL[2049.985]
;W[kk]WL[2013.648]
;B[kl]BL[2036.644]
;W[lk]WL[2003.395]
;B[ml]BL[2034.306]
;W[jk]WL[1979.051]
;B[ik]BL[2031.96]
;W[hk]WL[1969.231]
;B[mo]BL[2025.926]
;W[lo]WL[1964.633]
;B[no]BL[2024.237]
;W[ln]WL[1962.78]
;B[mp]BL[2023.084]
;W[mq]WL[1961.045]
;B[nk]BL[2011.133]
;W[ok]WL[1956.734]
;B[go]BL[2008.966]
;W[ep]WL[1937.595]
;B[in]BL[2001.579]
;W[hn]WL[1934.695]
;B[fp]BL[1999.815]
;W[ch]WL[1930.925]
;B[bh]BL[1996.51]
;W[di]WL[1920.422]
;B[ne]BL[1992.219]
;W[md]WL[1912.357]
;B[db]BL[1987.822]
;W[ea]WL[1909.179]
;B[ba]BL[1986.197]
;W[jc]WL[1858.925]
;B[da]BL[1981.527]
;W[ga]WL[1855.628]
;B[op]BL[1977.001]
;W[ns]WL[1850.835]
;B[os]BL[1974.457]
;W[ls]WL[1847.502]
;B[ms]BL[1972.333]
;W[oa]WL[1835.772]
;B[ob]BL[1968.356]
;W[ls]WL[1834.876]C[Javaness [1d\]: ok i hope I can count
]
;B[kr]BL[1864.047]
;W[ms]WL[1826.742]C[bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: i hope i cant count :-)
]
;B[]BL[1839.001]C[Javaness [1d\]: i know i can't count
Javaness [1d\]: i only say that to make you nervous ;-)
]
;W[]WL[1786.485]TW[ha][ia][ja][ka][ib][jb][kb][lb][kc][mc][kd][ld][le][mh][ei][li][mi][ni][ej][jj][kj][lj][bk][ck][dk][ek][fk][gk][al][cl][fl][gl][am][bm][fm][gm][an][bn][ao][bo][ap][bp][cp][aq][cq][ar][br][as]TB[aa][ca][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][bb][qb][rb][sb][ac][pc][rc][sc][ad][qd][rd][sd][ae][ee][re][se][af][bf][if][rf][ag][qg][sg][ah][ph][rh][sh][qi][oo][po][qo][ro][gp][qp][sp][gq][pq][qq][rq][sq][er][gr][hr][pr][qr][rr][sr][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[Javaness [1d\]: Thanks for the game
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: well played ian
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: you were ahead early on after top left and never in trouble afterwards
Javaness [1d\]: yes, keima at the start was a bit strange
Javaness [1d\]: Solaris, do you want to review
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: is keima like joseki ??
solaris [-\]: OK:)
solaris [-\]: sorry :)
Javaness [1d\]: knights move=keima
Javaness [1d\]: you don't have to :)
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: oh i understand
])
(;B[lc]C[solaris [-\]: like this b get sente and can invade
Javaness [1d\]: I wasn't sure if it worked or not
solaris [-\]: w can lose eyes on top
Javaness [1d\]: so I decided not to take the risk
solaris [-\]: why not?
solaris [-\]: i mean what w play?
Javaness [1d\]: i don't know
]
(;W[ld]
;B[kc]
;W[kd]
;B[mc]
;W[md]
;B[nb]C[Javaness [1d\]: well N17 then N15 maybe
]
(;W[jc]
;B[fb]
;W[fa]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[kb])
(;W[oc]
;B[ob]
;W[jc]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[kb]
;W[mg]
;B[fb]
;W[fa]
;B[id]
;W[ic]C[solaris [-\]: w on top have 1 eye gote
]))
(;W[mc]
;B[ld]
;W[me]
;B[lb]TR[ma]C[solaris [-\]: can connect
]
(;W[mb]
;B[le]
;W[lf]
;B[md]
;W[nd]
;B[ne]
;W[mf]
;B[od]C[Javaness [1d\]: ok
solaris [-\]: like this w dies
])
(;W[nf]
;B[ma]
;W[je]
;B[id]
;W[jc]C[Javaness [1d\]: I just played boring instead
]
;B[jb]
;W[ic]
;B[fb]
;W[fa]
;B[mg]
;W[mf]
;B[lg]
;W[ke]
;B[mi]C[solaris [-\]: all die
Javaness [1d\]: ^..^
solaris [-\]: m17 is very severe:)
Javaness [1d\]: is not nice to play like that
]))))
(;W[qh]
;B[qj]LB[oh:B][ol:A]C[Javaness [1d\]: wekk white P8 first
Javaness [1d\]: well
solaris [-\]: miai for b
])
(;W[ol]
;B[qj]
;W[ne]C[Javaness [1d\]: hmm
solaris [-\]: but more normal, yes
]))
(;W[ne]C[solaris [-\]: beter dfend at once
]))
(;B[fr]TR[cq][dq]C[solaris [-\]: better f2
solaris [-\]: let both possible if w tenuki
solaris [-\]: c3-d3
]))
(;W[hp]
;B[hq]
;W[gp]
;B[gq]
;W[fp]
;B[eq]
;W[ep]
;B[dq]
;W[ip]
;B[jq]
;W[jo]
;B[ko]TR[gm]C[solaris [-\]: is not so big, w give corner to b
Javaness [1d\]: ok
]
;W[kn]
;B[lo]
;W[jn]
;B[pq]C[solaris [-\]: b bottom is too big
]))
(;B[jj]C[Javaness [1d\]: J10 was too much I think
solaris [-\]: better hane with b
]
;W[ik]
;B[ki]TR[ld]C[solaris [-\]: bad aji on top
]
;W[ld]
;B[kl]TR[nn]C[solaris [-\]: if w defend and b get keima is too good for b
solaris [-\]: big:)
]))
(;B[eb]C[solaris [-\]: also b can try to play more sharp
]
;W[dc]
;B[bd]C[solaris [-\]: probably w dies 
bgbgbg007 [4k?\]: yeah  game continuation a disaster :-)
]))
(;W[ed]C[solaris [-\]: w should connect
]))
(;W[ed]C[solaris [-\]: if  w cut
Javaness [1d\]: E15 is more normal I suppose
solaris [-\]: is ok for w
solaris [-\]: nobi is usual
Javaness [1d\]: maybe I should have played tengen anyway
solaris [-\]: insead of kakari?
solaris [-\]: f17
Javaness [1d\]: yeah
solaris [-\]: instead*
solaris [-\]: well:)
Javaness [1d\]: but I hate big moyo games ;>
solaris [-\]: f17 is not bad:)
solaris [-\]: if w connects and cut
solaris [-\]: is good for w
]
;B[cd]
;W[cc]
;B[be]
;W[bc]TR[fd][df]C[solaris [-\]: dead
Javaness [1d\]: H17 might not be normal, but it really unsettled me
solaris [-\]: :)
Javaness [1d\]: I couldn't just play joseki anymore, had to start thinking, which is dangerous
solaris [-\]: and d14 still not surely alive
solaris [-\]: haha
Javaness [1d\]: yeah
Javaness [1d\]: yes
solaris [-\]: and still b nt strong
]
;B[ch]C[solaris [-\]: yes, but looks odd ofor b
]
;W[qn]
;AE[ec][fc][fd][ee]C[solaris [-\]: can be like this
Javaness [1d\]: yeah I made a mistake there
]
;B[fc]
;W[ec]
;B[fd]
;W[ee]C[Javaness [1d\]: ;-)
solaris [-\]: very strange invasion:)
Javaness [1d\]: rengo invasion
Javaness [1d\]: when your partner plays for other side
]))
(;B[df]
(;W[cf]C[solaris [-\]: if w nobi too
]
;B[cd]
;W[cc]
;B[bd]
;W[bc]
;B[ed]
;W[dc]
;B[cg]
;W[be]
;B[bf]
;W[ad]
;B[dg]C[solaris [-\]: is ok fr b
Javaness [1d\]: didn't think of that
])
(;W[cd]
;B[eb]
;W[db]
;B[ed]
;W[dc]
;B[ff]C[solaris [-\]: this is same, ok for b
solaris [-\]: h17 want to attack, so failed:)
solaris [-\]: b shape too strong
])))
(;W[ee]
;B[ed]
;W[dc]
;B[ef]C[solaris [-\]: this ladder i mean
Javaness [1d\]: yeah
solaris [-\]: if is good for w 
solaris [-\]: w can try to play
]))
(;W[ba]
;B[aa]))
