(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[2x30 byo-yomi]
PW[ptitlou]PB[jameshut]WR[1d]DT[2016-11-11]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[jameshut [?\]: have fun!
]RE[W+6.50]
;B[pd]BL[1786.711]C[ptitlou [1d\]: Irish Friendly Games - Game mmhhh not sure
ptitlou [1d\]: Have fun James!
jameshut [?\]: Game 8! :-)
]
;W[dc]WL[1765.081]
;B[pq]BL[1775.73]
;W[cp]WL[1760.618]
;B[ep]BL[1771.089]
;W[eq]WL[1746.049]
;B[fq]BL[1767.824]
;W[dq]WL[1744.452]
;B[fp]BL[1764.972]
;W[do]WL[1733.933]
;B[pk]BL[1688.139]
;W[mp]WL[1693.864]
;B[kp]BL[1681.441]
(;W[po]WL[1691.764]
;B[oo]BL[1677.436]
(;W[op]WL[1605.121]C[ptitlou [1d\]: so this should not work I guess ?
]
;B[pp]BL[1649.865]
;W[oq]WL[1586.263]
(;B[qo]BL[1433.828]
;W[pn]WL[1583.172]
;B[qn]BL[1432.229]
;W[pm]WL[1558.554]
;B[qm]BL[1430.551]
;W[nn]WL[1546.165]C[ptitlou [1d\]: seems a bit too easy for me no?
jameshut [?\]: I just just j3
]
(;B[cn]BL[1407.164]C[ptitlou [1d\]: well at least this does look a bit violent! ;-)
]
;W[dn]WL[1534.662]C[jameshut [?\]: so I watched a high level game yesterday
ptitlou [1d\]: yeah ?
ptitlou [1d\]: playing this kind of opening ?
jameshut [?\]: so I wanted to stabilise f3 via attviolence
ptitlou [1d\]: ;-)
]
;B[cl]BL[1353.61]
;W[dm]WL[1500.041]
;B[cm]BL[1334.27]
;W[cj]WL[1476.883]
;B[bq]BL[1284.94]
;W[bp]WL[1403.66]
;B[dl]BL[1269.555]
;W[el]WL[1393.834]
;B[dp]BL[1261.078]
;W[cq]WL[1385.656]
;B[co]BL[1256.512]
;W[fm]WL[1371.866]
;B[dj]BL[1252.26]
;W[ci]WL[1360.641]C[jameshut [?\]: too much fighting spirit!
]
;B[ek]BL[1249.94]
;W[fk]WL[1358.558]
;B[fj]BL[1248.382]
;W[gk]WL[1356.999]
;B[eh]BL[1140.58]
;W[dg]WL[1308.694]
;B[fr]BL[1118.444]
;W[er]WL[1261.627]
(;B[jc]BL[964.752]
;W[gj]WL[1255.067]
;B[fi]BL[957.735]C[ptitlou [1d\]: ;-)
ptitlou [1d\]: yes but you leave two weak groups behind
]
(;W[ip]WL[1140.773]C[ptitlou [1d\]: g10 is too good for me from a liberty points of view I guess
jameshut [?\]: so in the absence of any good local moves, I thought I would at least play a good move somewhere else
]
;B[iq]BL[908.638]
;W[hq]WL[1135.133]
;B[hp]BL[885.165]
;W[ho]WL[1133.235]
;B[gp]BL[882.079]C[jameshut [?\]: your way is better I think
]
;W[jq]WL[1131.778]
;B[ir]BL[880.621]
(;W[jp]WL[1120.831]
;B[jr]BL[844.951]
;W[kr]WL[1109.71]
(;B[kq]BL[820.014]C[ptitlou [1d\]: for me that might be the losing move
jameshut [?\]: can yuo play k2?
ptitlou [1d\]: so I think this is really not good here
]
;W[lr]WL[1104.535]
;B[ko]BL[815.004]C[ptitlou [1d\]: ho yes
jameshut [?\]: :-)
ptitlou [1d\]: taht's why this is really not good for you!
]
;W[jn]WL[1096.516]
(;B[hr]BL[809.855]C[jameshut [?\]: hmmm
]
;W[kn]WL[1080.08]
(;B[qf]BL[747.226]
(;W[lc]WL[1045.958]C[jameshut [?\]: true enough
ptitlou [1d\]: I am really so happy to play l6
ptitlou [1d\]: it is worth plenty of points on tis own
ptitlou [1d\]: plus it helps me for all the future : i know i can attack quite strongly everywhere now
ptitlou [1d\]: like m3
]
;B[oc]BL[704.372]
;W[le]WL[1028.794]
;B[je]BL[691.624]
;W[hh]WL[1007.795]
;B[di]BL[641.095]
;W[dh]WL[969.356]
(;B[jg]BL[607.613]
;W[if]WL[946.405]C[jameshut [?\]: b5 would have been nice...
]
;B[jf]BL[599.404]
;W[bo]WL[932.01]
;B[ck]BL[545.118]
;W[bk]WL[923.939]
;B[bl]BL[540.796]
;W[bj]WL[920.136]
;B[ff]BL[537.663]
(;W[eg]WL[910.921]
;B[fg]BL[534.981]
;W[gh]WL[909.985]
;B[fh]BL[533.83]
;W[id]WL[904.683]
;B[jd]BL[530.139]
;W[ee]WL[895.353]
;B[hf]BL[488.787]C[ptitlou [1d\]: didn't see anything working
]
(;W[ib]WL[685.748]
;B[ie]BL[446.978]C[ptitlou [1d\]: now the game is very close
jameshut [?\]: can you try harder there?
ptitlou [1d\]: you are stable so I must play very actively to keep the lead
]
;W[qc]WL[657.045]
;B[pb]BL[360.808]
;W[jb]WL[625.163]
;B[cc]BL[204.732]C[jameshut [?\]: I felt I was overplaying to try to come back
ptitlou [1d\]: well the thing is even if you die in the corner it was my corner
ptitlou [1d\]: so if you can add moves around g17 in sente then my white group is floating again
jameshut [?\]: ok
jameshut [?\]: fair enough
jameshut [?\]: that probably was my plan all right
ptitlou [1d\]: yeah
]
(;W[cd]WL[591.371]
;B[db]BL[197.747]
;W[bc]WL[557.57]
;B[ec]BL[160.619]
;W[cb]WL[553.5]
;B[fd]BL[116.209]
;W[ed]WL[489.708]C[ptitlou [1d\]: not so easy for me
]
(;B[mb]BL[78.297]
;W[fe]WL[433.957]
;B[ge]BL[55.632]
;W[gd]WL[414.224]
;B[hd]BL[44.757]
;W[gc]WL[395.429]C[ptitlou [1d\]: like 20 points plus k18 is safe plus sente
jameshut [?\]: maybe 15
ptitlou [1d\]: (when you cut at m18)
jameshut [?\]: true
]
;B[lb]BL[37.854]C[ptitlou [1d\]: but still game is depending of what i can do on the right
ptitlou [1d\]: without reducing too much my ce nter
jameshut [?\]: at least this way I can make lots of points
ptitlou [1d\]: yes
]
;W[qg]WL[389.952]C[ptitlou [1d\]: game is really close
]
;B[pf]BL[16.186]
;W[rf]WL[384.905]
;B[re]BL[12.929]
(;W[rh]WL[382.706]
;B[qi]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pg]WL[374.047]
;B[of]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ri]WL[365.532]
;B[qj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ql]WL[314.035]
;B[rl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[se]WL[293.542]
;B[rd]BL[30]OB[2]
(;W[rk]WL[272.119]C[ptitlou [1d\]: and it is better to keep the liberty
]
;B[pl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rj]WL[249.358]
;B[qk]BL[30]OB[2]C[ptitlou [1d\]: s9 is bad
]
;W[nh]WL[201.668]
;B[mi]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[mh]WL[190.676]
;B[og]BL[30]OB[1]
(;W[oh]WL[188.871]
(;B[qh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[li]WL[138.887]
;B[ph]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ji]WL[135.81]
;B[mk]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[nj]WL[127.628]
;B[nl]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kk]WL[89.009]
;B[gn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hn]WL[84.416]C[ptitlou [1d\]: why not push at g7
]
(;B[or]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[nr]WL[79.251]
;B[nm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[no]WL[49.806]
;B[fn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[gm]WL[29.691]C[ptitlou [1d\]: i mean i remembered at the late yose you played f6
jameshut [?\]: so that's 8 points better...
jameshut [?\]: lol
ptitlou [1d\]: i was also surprised you didn't m7
jameshut [?\]: byo-yomi failures...
ptitlou [1d\]: and and also q2 was very big
jameshut [?\]: p2 was a timesuji
]
;B[hc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hb]WL[22.657]
;B[mf]BL[30]OB[1]
(;W[lg]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[lf]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kb]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[kc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[pr]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[qr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[os]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[rq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lm]WL[30]OW[2]C[ptitlou [1d\]: now i felt ahead
jameshut [?\]: so I went badly wrong in yose...
jameshut [?\]: yep
]
;B[ll]BL[30]OB[1]C[ptitlou [1d\]: well you missed some sente sequences
]
;W[kl]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[om]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[on]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[mj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kg]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[jh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ki]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ih]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ii]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[gi]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hi]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[mm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[mn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ni]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[oi]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[oj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ic]WL[30]OW[2]
(;B[he]BL[30]OB[1]C[jameshut [?\]: true, but they're very important
ptitlou [1d\]: you could also a9 in sente no ?
jameshut [?\]: I looked
]
;W[bn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ka]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[gb]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ef]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[df]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[eo]BL[30]OB[1]C[ptitlou [1d\]: well i was not sure and i was in byo so i might have miscalculated
]
;W[em]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[lj]BL[30]OB[1]C[jameshut [?\]: true
ptitlou [1d\]: i really calculated only when i played a8
ptitlou [1d\]: to be sure it was not gote
]
;W[kf]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[ke]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[al]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[am]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ak]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[bm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[an]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[dk]BL[30]OB[1]
(;W[mg]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[ng]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hg]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[ig]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[fs]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[gs]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[es]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[kj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[jj]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[kh]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lh]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ja]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[la]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[gg]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[gf]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lk]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[ml]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ks]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[qs]BL[30]OB[1]C[jameshut [?\]: anyway thanks Philippe
jameshut [?\]: nice game
ptitlou [1d\]: thank you James! See you next week ? Very nice game!
jameshut [?\]: yep
]
;W[ps]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[go]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[pi]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[pj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hl]WL[30]OW[1]
;B[]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[]WL[30]OW[1]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ab][bb][db][eb][fb][ac][cc][ec][fc][ad][bd][dd][fd][ae][be][ce][de][af][bf][cf][ag][bg][cg][ah][bh][ch][ai][bi][aj][hj][ij][hk][ik][jk][fl][gl][il][jl][hm][im][jm][km][in][ln][ao][io][jo][ko][lo][mo][oo][ap][kp][lp][np][aq][bq][kq][lq][mq][nq][ar][br][cr][dr][mr][or][as][bs][cs][ds][ls][ms][ns]TB[ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][nb][ob][qb][rb][sb][lc][mc][nc][pc][qc][rc][sc][kd][ld][md][nd][od][qd][sd][le][me][ne][oe][pe][qe][se][if][nf][rf][sf][pg][qg][rg][sg][rh][sh][ei][ri][si][ej][nj][rj][sj][nk][ok][rk][sk][ol][ql][sl][rm][sm][rn][sn][fo][ro][so][qp][rp][sp][gq][hq][qq][sq][gr][rr][sr][hs][is][rs][ss]C[ptitlou [1d\]: thank you James!
jameshut [?\]: thanks!
jameshut [?\]: ah I should have played b5!
ptitlou [1d\]: I wonder if it is not the first game that we take to the counting phase ?
jameshut [?\]: lol
ptitlou [1d\]: yes b5 was big
ptitlou [1d\]: tricky yose
jameshut [?\]: didn't realise it would prove sente for you
ptitlou [1d\]: plenty of big move all over the place
])
(;W[ng]
;B[nf]C[ptitlou [1d\]: yes!
]))
(;B[ak]
;W[aj]
;B[al]
;W[gb]
(;B[ch]
;W[bh]
;B[cg]
;W[cf]C[ptitlou [1d\]: no you can psh and cut at e14 and then squeeze
]
;B[ef]
;W[df])
(;B[ef]
;W[df]
;B[de]
;W[dd]
(;B[cf]
;W[cg]
;B[bg]
;W[ch]
;B[ce]C[ptitlou [1d\]: cut at c12 first
])
(;B[ch]C[jameshut [?\]: ah, if only I'd have known that you thought it was sente :-)
]
;W[bh]
;B[cf]
;W[cg]
;B[bg]
;W[ce]C[ptitlou [1d\]: mmh ok
]))))
(;W[lf]C[ptitlou [1d\]: this is really big otoo
]
;B[lg]
;W[mg]C[ptitlou [1d\]: m12
]
;B[lh]C[jameshut [?\]: ah
jameshut [?\]: yes
ptitlou [1d\]: well not so good in fact
jameshut [?\]: true
]))
(;B[mn])
(;B[gm]C[ptitlou [1d\]: instead of e6
jameshut [?\]: ah
jameshut [?\]: yes
]
(;W[go]C[ptitlou [1d\]: be5
]
;B[io]
;W[jo]
;B[fn]
;W[fo]
;B[en]
;W[eo]C[ptitlou [1d\]: no
])
(;W[eo])
(;W[hm]C[ptitlou [1d\]: well yes probably
]
;B[gl]
;W[hl]
;B[fl]
;W[go]
;B[fn]
;W[fo]
;B[em]
;W[eo]C[jameshut [?\]: is that waht happens?
ptitlou [1d\]: well now in factc ;-)
])))
(;B[lh])
(;B[li]
;W[qh]C[ptitlou [1d\]: I counted even if you took the whole side i was ok if I was taking the center
]
;B[sg]
;W[oj]
;B[pi]
;W[nj]
;B[ph]
(;W[kh])
(;W[nl])))
(;W[qh]
;B[sg]
;W[oh]
;B[pi]
;W[ph]C[jameshut [?\]: so I thought this may happen
jameshut [?\]: and I am in byo yomi
ptitlou [1d\]: well then you m11
]
;B[li]
;W[ni]C[ptitlou [1d\]: just o10
]
;B[nj]C[jameshut [?\]: true
ptitlou [1d\]: don't see a second eye coming
jameshut [?\]: you're probably not getting away
ptitlou [1d\]: you can just pull back every where
jameshut [?\]: true
]
;W[kb]
;B[kc]
;W[mc]
;B[nc]
(;W[ne])
(;W[sf]
;B[sd]
;W[rg]
;B[sk])))
(;W[pl]C[ptitlou [1d\]: should just connect at q8
]
;B[rk]C[ptitlou [1d\]: i mean s10 is still nearly sente
ptitlou [1d\]: and my shape is not so bad
]))
(;W[qi]C[ptitlou [1d\]: yes or r9
])
(;W[qk]C[jameshut [?\]: hmmm
]
;B[qj]C[ptitlou [1d\]: q10 ?
]
;W[pj]
;B[rk]C[ptitlou [1d\]: if I can close center i sente I win I guess
]
;W[ok]
;B[ql]C[ptitlou [1d\]: yes
]
(;W[ol]C[ptitlou [1d\]: or connect at p10
]
;B[ji])
(;W[oj]
;B[ol]C[ptitlou [1d\]: o8
]
;W[nl]
;B[om]C[ptitlou [1d\]: p6
]
;W[on]
;B[pl]
;W[nm]
;B[ji]C[ptitlou [1d\]: well if you destry the center but i can reconnect m15 and r13 it is probably ok for me
ptitlou [1d\]: no?
jameshut [?\]: I'll probably still try to kill something
jameshut [?\]: either one of those two
ptitlou [1d\]: yes
ptitlou [1d\]: game is probably very close at this stage
]
;W[nh])))
(;B[fc]C[ptitlou [1d\]: yes eems big
]
(;W[mb])
(;W[nb]C[ptitlou [1d\]: well playing around me is probably sente so you can dvelop your right framework and reduce mine
jameshut [?\]: does this add to the aji at r17?
ptitlou [1d\]: probably a little bit
ptitlou [1d\]: like r16 and q17 push
jameshut [?\]: I think that's what I was thinking
ptitlou [1d\]: so I was right to play r17 ;-)
jameshut [?\]: :-)
ptitlou [1d\]: just to make you worry a little bit
jameshut [?\]: I felt f17 was a bit slow
jameshut [?\]: (for me)
ptitlou [1d\]: it is but still when I cut it makes me plenty of sure points
])))
(;W[db]C[ptitlou [1d\]: another hard seuqence here
jameshut [?\]: what about this soort of thing?
])
(;W[dd]C[ptitlou [1d\]: yeah may be
]
;B[cd]
;W[be]C[jameshut [?\]: or maybe some nasty move like that
ptitlou [1d\]: well with e14 push i was not very confident
]
;B[ce]
;W[bf]
;B[ef]
;W[df]
;B[de]
(;W[fd]C[ptitlou [1d\]: d18 and you live
]
;B[db]
;W[eb])
(;W[ed]
;B[db]
;W[eb]
;B[cb]
;W[fc]C[jameshut [?\]: can black really live here?
]
(;B[ab]
;W[ba]
;B[bd]
;W[bb]C[jameshut [?\]: so that's dead?
])
(;B[ba]
;W[ab]))))
(;W[ig]C[jameshut [?\]: ok
]
;B[ie]
;W[he]
;B[ge]C[ptitlou [1d\]: I gave you control
]
;W[hd]
;B[gd])
(;W[ie]
;B[ig]
;W[hg]
(;B[gd]
;W[gf]
;B[fe]
;W[he]C[jameshut [?\]: ah maybe ok
])
(;B[he]
;W[hd]
;B[gd]C[jameshut [?\]: push through
]
;W[ge]
;B[gf]
;W[gc]
;B[fd]C[jameshut [?\]: on the previous variation
]
;W[hb]
;B[fc]
;W[fb]
;B[fe]
;W[eb]
;B[ib]
;W[hc]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[lg])))
(;W[he]C[ptitlou [1d\]: may be i should play that
ptitlou [1d\]: I wanted to play safe and take points as I was feeling ahead
]
;B[de]C[ptitlou [1d\]: i was a bit worried about that
]
;W[ce]
;B[df]
;W[cf]
(;B[eg])
(;B[fd]
;W[hc]
;B[dd]
;W[cd]
;B[ec]
;W[db]
;B[gc]
;W[hb]
;B[lg]C[ptitlou [1d\]: at least your group is not fully settled at k13
])))
(;B[bo]C[jameshut [?\]: must be sente
]
;W[br]C[ptitlou [1d\]: yes absolutely
jameshut [?\]: pah!
]
;B[kf]C[jameshut [?\]: game losing move...
ptitlou [1d\]: yes changes quite a lot the flow of the game
]))
(;W[nk]C[ptitlou [1d\]: I can even develop the center
]))
(;B[oc]C[ptitlou [1d\]: may be this ?
]
;W[qi]
;B[qj]
;W[pi]
;B[nk]
;W[qf]
;B[qe]
;W[pf]C[ptitlou [1d\]: my center will be reduced if I attack from this side
]))
(;B[kn]
;W[jm]
;B[mo]
;W[no]
;B[ll]C[ptitlou [1d\]: at this stage i think you'd better run out anyway
jameshut [?\]: h2
]))
(;B[hr]
(;W[kq]C[ptitlou [1d\]: either this
ptitlou [1d\]: or if you cut you must go out
jameshut [?\]: would you play l3?
ptitlou [1d\]: but not let me capture three stones, this is enormous and then I am so strong in teh center
])
(;W[nc]C[ptitlou [1d\]: no but then you have plenty of aji left, you never know what will the best sequence be in the future with additional stones
]
(;B[lr]
;W[kq]C[jameshut [?\]: true
]
;B[ks]C[ptitlou [1d\]: may be just yose in the future
])
(;B[kq]
;W[lr]
;B[io]
;W[jo]
;B[in]
;W[jn]
;B[im]C[ptitlou [1d\]: may be you will be able to attack this way... we never know
]))))
(;W[jr]C[ptitlou [1d\]: seems better!!
]
(;B[jp]
;W[io]
;B[hr]
;W[lq]
;B[es]
;W[ds]
;B[fs]C[ptitlou [1d\]: I was afraid of you living in sente
]
;W[cr]C[ptitlou [1d\]: well yes but compared to the game it is like you having one more move
ptitlou [1d\]: becasue you're stone at l4 are not captured at all
]
(;B[kn]C[jameshut [?\]: seems heavy to run??
])
(;B[qf]
;W[kn]
;B[gc]C[jameshut [?\]: true
ptitlou [1d\]: I fall behind
]))
(;B[io]C[ptitlou [1d\]: yeah actually I doj't kknow why i didn't even look at it
ptitlou [1d\]: I was playing automatically the sequence I had planned initally
]
;W[jp]
;B[hr]
;W[is]C[jameshut [?\]: I have to fix
])))
(;W[hh])
(;W[iq]
;B[ip]
;W[jq]
;B[jp]
;W[kq]
;B[hq]
;W[lp]
;B[jl]C[ptitlou [1d\]: I thought I might play this ?
ptitlou [1d\]: but I didn't want you to put pressure again on my central stones so I decided to get strong in the center instead
]))
(;B[gj]C[ptitlou [1d\]: i really think you can leave the fight area now
ptitlou [1d\]: can't*
]
;W[hk]
;B[ii]
;W[jk]
;B[lq]C[ptitlou [1d\]: something like that ?
jameshut [?\]: I couldn't think of a good sequence that I liked
ptitlou [1d\]: you must keep pressure on my central stones no?
]))
(;B[iq]C[ptitlou [1d\]: now ?
jameshut [?\]: or something
])
(;B[kn])
(;B[nc]))
(;B[on]C[jameshut [?\]: tpp early in the morning for dangerous reading for me :-)
jameshut [?\]: *too
ptitlou [1d\]: ;-)
ptitlou [1d\]: it seems right to extend, I dn't think yu can die in the corner
]
(;W[qo]
;B[or]
;W[nr]
;B[pr]
;W[mq]
;B[rp]
;W[ro]
;B[qp]
;W[pm]C[ptitlou [1d\]: doesn't seem good for me
])
(;W[pn]
;B[pm]
;W[qm]
;B[pl]
;W[qp]
;B[qq]
;W[rp]
;B[rq]
;W[rn]
;B[or]
;W[nr]
;B[pr]
;W[lq]
;B[rl]C[ptitlou [1d\]: pfiouuu
ptitlou [1d\]: complex vairations
])))
(;W[on]
;B[no]
;W[pp]
;B[nq]
;W[qq]C[jameshut [?\]: I have tried Q4 lots of times, and it doesn't really work
]
;B[oq]
;W[rp]C[jameshut [?\]: yes
jameshut [?\]: this sort of thing
]
;B[nn]
;W[om]
;B[nl]C[ptitlou [1d\]: I didn't really like the final result for w
]))
(;W[pp]C[ptitlou [1d\]: may be that would be better to stabilize ?
jameshut [?\]: q5 is correct I think
]))
